tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post7155392572213392295..comments2023-11-05T06:16:56.961-05:00Comments on the Carpentry Way: Tréteau XXIIIAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-39403784205225332972010-02-14T16:49:28.826-05:002010-02-14T16:49:28.826-05:00...perhaps doing a quick check for typing errors w......perhaps doing a quick check for typing errors would be of benefit...<br /><br />grrAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-28562533416485158702010-02-14T16:46:26.392-05:002010-02-14T16:46:26.392-05:00Hi C (on da BIG),
some good observations there. I...Hi C (on da BIG),<br /><br />some good observations there. I think having a separate assembly and joinery bench makes a lot of sense.<br /><br />I used to have a planing beam of California Redwood, about 14" x 4" - it was sable and fairly light to move about, and I liked that. <br /><br />I guess I'm looking for ways to apply these new French layout techniques for braces to my repertoire generally, and i cabinet bench seemed like a possible application. I have no immediate plans to build one, but like to explore the design possibilities through drawing all the same.<br /><br />Happy Valentines to you too!<br /><br />~ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-79429686731850829592010-02-14T14:34:37.050-05:002010-02-14T14:34:37.050-05:001.75" tops are too thin for my taste even whe...1.75" tops are too thin for my taste even when stiffened up with a front apron of 1.5"x4" rock maple. I have started to grow from the desire for the big heavy bench for joinery to more of a mobile set- up. Assembly tables need big flat space, joinery on needs support for the work at hand. Saw horses and a narrower( but thick) slab top with maybe a loose tool tray full length in the back that's what I likes these days. Bench and assembly need to be two separate surfaces, tools on a third separate surface to keep them off the bench would be next best too. But tool tray works o.k..<br />I have been wanting a 3'x7' wood veneer solid core fire door for a layout table slab. They are pretty flat and cheap, ready to go for about $50~75<br /><br />Happy Valentines Day you big Lug. Omedeto gozaimasu on the Freedom Saw Horse. Blog is great keep it up.<br />Don't wear out that snow shovel! Post a pic of the white stuff? Can't remeber what it looks like...<br />C on da BIGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-75598663329711143502010-02-14T09:57:42.431-05:002010-02-14T09:57:42.431-05:00Hi Julian,
it is my suspicion that the leg propor...Hi Julian,<br /><br />it is my suspicion that the leg proportions of a western bench are at least partially driven by the thickness of the top. With a thick top, as seems common, the legs have to scale up to look appropriate. Otherwise, yes, you are quite right, the legs are massive really, far thicker that they need to be for any likely load to be borne on top of the bench. <br /><br />And maybe, as you say, the legs are that thick in order to be adequately stiff a connection for the stretchers, which are usually bolted on or serves as a spacer for a tie rod. It is not an especially stout or clever way to reinforce the bench from racking forces.<br /><br />I suppose that the top of the bench needs to be thick enough so that when one does some chopping with a chisel on some piece of work, the top does not vibrate too much. Also, the top needs to be a certain thickness in relation to the bench clamps that are attached to its edge, and the bench dogs that are used through the top. Now how thick is the question? 1"? 1.5"? 2"? 2.5"? 3"?<br /><br />I'm thinking that a frame and panel top, with stout crosspieces, would allow the top as a whole to lose a little mass and still be adequate to soak up vibration. If the frame were 2.5"~3.0" thick, and the panel was 0.75"~1.0" thick, with 2" thick crosspieces affixed underneath with sliding dovetails, say....???<br /><br />~ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-15326307747931128652010-02-13T23:38:53.762-05:002010-02-13T23:38:53.762-05:00What a fascinating website! On the subject of ben...What a fascinating website! On the subject of bench leg design, I have long thought it odd that the standard "western" design uses all the worst possible structural elements. Perhaps one reason western benches tend to the massive is because of their poor structural design. I'll be interested to see your ideas!juliannoreply@blogger.com