tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post1201356511533494615..comments2023-11-05T06:16:56.961-05:00Comments on the Carpentry Way: Gateway (47)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-42364695826247581472015-02-05T17:40:31.246-05:002015-02-05T17:40:31.246-05:00Will,
not sure anyone at the MFA is following thi...Will,<br /><br />not sure anyone at the MFA is following this at all, so hopefully they will be pleased when they see the final product. <br /><br />Thanks for your comment.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-20928104930470901992015-02-05T17:11:22.554-05:002015-02-05T17:11:22.554-05:00Hi Chris,
Thank you for your detailed answer. It&...Hi Chris,<br /><br />Thank you for your detailed answer. It's very informative to learn how a professional, and obviously a dedicated and commited one at that, thinks about these things. <br /><br />You are absolutely right - the major areas of concern are those with end grain. On a second note, it is not too difficult to find, e.g in Western Norway, an area of massive precipitation and strong ocean winds, both stave churches and log buildings between 500 and 900 years old and with the majority of the structure in their original condition. Many of these have never been treated. So the basic soundness of the structure, joinery and the basic quality of the timbers seem to be the most important aspects.<br /><br />Aging leaves a imprint on wood which we don't find to the same degree in stone structures and my understanding is that also in a Japanese tradition is this fact something to be exploited and cherished, rather than seen as a "defect" in wooden structures. (so keep the copper to a minimum:-))<br />It is also heartening to see how you have kept pieces of the original, inferior kiosk, even though it must have presented considerable difficulties vis-a-vis building entirely from new material. <br /><br />Thanks again, I will look forward to seeing how this develops.<br /><br />Best regards<br />HenrikHenriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-27437312816179228112015-02-05T11:25:57.541-05:002015-02-05T11:25:57.541-05:00This build history is a treatise in itself. I hope...This build history is a treatise in itself. I hope the MFA appreciates it enough to provide it as a book for those who come to admire your work. wilfortorontohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18055819061608257876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-39015755655640020412015-02-05T09:23:56.276-05:002015-02-05T09:23:56.276-05:00Tom,
thanks for the comment. Great minds think al...Tom,<br /><br />thanks for the comment. Great minds think alike I guess. I was thinking to pick something from West System epoxy for treating the bottom of the posts, but I haven't gone shopping yet. I used the term 'epoxy paint' as I'm not sure exactly which product I will go with at this point. seems like the best solution and I am confident it will adhere well to the POC.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-68691403899123797152015-02-05T09:21:16.118-05:002015-02-05T09:21:16.118-05:00Yup, that same unit from LV is one of the two I ha...Yup, that same unit from LV is one of the two I have. It works great, so long as you are within a few feet of it.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-38038649092593907432015-02-05T09:15:49.222-05:002015-02-05T09:15:49.222-05:00Chris
I would highly recommend a liquid epoxy to s...Chris<br />I would highly recommend a liquid epoxy to seal endgrain. It soaks in amazingly and 2 or 3 coats are necessary. It degrades in UV, so if exposed to light a coat of paint will help. Paint when the epoxy is tacky and it will glue the paint to itself. Copper or lead make a better bsrrier than tarpaper, because of their anti-fungal properties.<br /><br />Looking good !!<br /><br />TomTomausmichigannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-92059243718885731222015-02-05T09:14:18.943-05:002015-02-05T09:14:18.943-05:00I have found this heater to be a lifesaver for me ...I have found this heater to be a lifesaver for me in my cold shop:<br /><br />http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=44590&cat=1,43456,43465,44590Tico Vogthttp://www.ticovogt.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-64595947525605344532015-02-05T08:04:28.959-05:002015-02-05T08:04:28.959-05:00It would have been a good idea, now that I think a...It would have been a good idea, now that I think about the matter further, to have made the granite sills with a crown so that they readily shed water. That would have been an improvement, but too late now. I'll file that away in the 'lessons learned' category.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-90307751619384083842015-02-05T08:02:35.914-05:002015-02-05T08:02:35.914-05:00Hi Henrik,
thanks for the comment and questions.
...Hi Henrik,<br /><br />thanks for the comment and questions.<br /><br />The issue of the wood in contact with the stone is one I've considered. The granite does not absorb water significantly nor does it wick moisture, so we are ahead of the game from the outset. Also, the wood will be nowhere near soil, nor can wet soil spashback onto the wood occur anywhere. Plus the wood we are using is naturally rot resistant. so, on all those accounts, the playing field is being tilted in favor of the wood.<br /><br />I have contact patches, nevertheless, between wood and the granite in all locations where a post sits on top of a plinth. Those are the areas I am most concerned about, as the end grain of the sticks can more readily absorb moisture. To defeat that somewhat, I will be slightly hollowing a good portion of the bottom of the posts so that the contact patch is diminished, and will be painting those portions with some sort of latex or epoxy paint. Also, some of the posts will be wrapped with copper sheet on the bottom 10" or so, and this will add a certain anti-microbial aspect from the copper itself.<br /><br />The sill itself is not sloped to shed moisture, but is at least chamfered a bit. For sure, a small amount of moisture could sit there, but if there is nothing to absorb it and hold it there, it shouldn't be a problem. <br /><br />A modern solution to this issue that I see on newer Japanese buildings with mud sills is to place a layer of grooved plastic (phenolic I think) shims along the foundation, spaced a few feet apart as necessary. <br /><br />Tar paper as a barrier is certainly a traditional solution, but not one I've seen used on structures like these. I could consider putting a small piece between the sill's contact area and the granite, or I could continue with my current plan which is to use the epoxy paint. I'm actually less concerned with the contact zone, which is side grain, than I am the scalloped portions immediately adjacent, which have a portion of end grain. Those will be painted. While dew can form on the stone, I do not think it will form directly in those areas of actual contact with wood, and I think the opportunity for moisture from dew to migrate to the wood is greatly minimized overall. <br /><br />I'm taking many steps to make the structure more weatherproof, while adhering closely to the appropriate aesthetics for this sort of structure, and at the end of the day there remains the basic fact that a roof is lacking and the bulk of the structure is fully exposed to the weather. Since I cannot clad the entire thing in copper sheet (it is done on some of these gates in Japan though), a certain shortcoming in terms of weatherproofness is inherent to the design in the first place. There is a balance point between cladding with copper and letting the wood be seen that has to be considered. Some decisions in that regard remain to be finalized - should I completely clad the top surfaces of the doors, for example, or just the door stile tops? Obviously, the more cladding the better for weatherproofing, but the appearance must be considered equally.<br /><br />I am confident this structure will outlast the original. The original would have lasted much longer if the wood had not been in contact with the soil and the copper flashing had been done properly. I've addressed those issues carefully in the new gate.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-29973088061830563712015-02-05T04:35:17.708-05:002015-02-05T04:35:17.708-05:00Hi Chris,
An enormously interesting and inspiring ...Hi Chris,<br />An enormously interesting and inspiring project. Thank you for persevering in updating us all the way through the process. <br /><br />A couple of pointers/questions which I am sure you have considered, but nevertheless...:<br /><br />Since, as you say, you are making the mud sill on granite non-standard anyway, have you considered shielding the wood from the contact with the stone?<br /><br />In log buildings here in Scandinavia, the mud sill is normally placed on a footing of stones - either as pillars or blocks, or as a complete wall. Between the bottom log and the stones a water-dispersing layer is placed. Traditionally tarred flax fibres or tarred sheep's wool. but today tar paper is used (the kind used for roofing), with the tarred side facing down on the granite.<br />This gives the wood protection not only against accumulated rain water but also dew forming on the stone. <br /><br />Also, you mention that you will chamfer the mud sill and give it support only on the middle 10". Have you taken into account any slope on the granite block - so that water will run off, and not into the contact zone?<br /><br />ThanksHenriknoreply@blogger.com