tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post3322406472627719492..comments2023-11-05T06:16:56.961-05:00Comments on the Carpentry Way: A Ming-Inspired Cabinet (74)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-80383117338513294492016-10-18T11:34:22.205-04:002016-10-18T11:34:22.205-04:00Brian,
thanks for the comment and the vote. Good ...Brian,<br /><br />thanks for the comment and the vote. Good to learn that this post was useful to you.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-7131341719723449272016-10-18T11:21:05.910-04:002016-10-18T11:21:05.910-04:00Chris, I voted, good luck in the competition.
T...Chris, I voted, good luck in the competition. <br /><br />This post is fantastic of course, and timely since we were just talking about sliding dovetails. Thank you again for your help! Brian Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06207345071092915936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-42890502642394111262016-10-17T08:32:09.169-04:002016-10-17T08:32:09.169-04:00Potomacker,
I will accept any comparison to the p...Potomacker,<br /><br />I will accept any comparison to the products of Faberge's workshops with (incredulous) delight, however it is not true that clients on the same level of wealth as Faberges' have passed away. There are more billionaires (I would suggest that they are an appropriate comparison) today than ever, for instance, though of course, the Russian imperial family is long gone. Today, sales of luxury items such as Richard Mille watches, mega-yachts, personal jets, Bugatti Veyrons, etc., are as lively as ever it seems. Clients for really high end furniture, however, are rather thin on the ground, no doubt about it. It's not a great way to make a living most of the time, trust me.<br /><br />It's really important to me to leave behind work that, in spirit and hopefully execution, matches that of the furniture I admire the most, which is Ming Chinese imperial furniture. That's the standard I strive to meet.<br /><br />With a thin panel, fitting an un-tapered sliding dovetail is not so difficult really. If need be, for example, the panel can be flexed (bowed) to open the dovetail trench slightly to ease insertion or removal. The main point is that the batten fit tightly - if it is too tight, the panel will be bowed as a sign of that. If it is too loose, it will be obvious enough. I don't hollow the dovetail male, as that would ruin the mechanical integrity of the connection and could result in the panel not being held flat to the batten, gaps thereby resulting between the two.<br /><br />The battens on this cabinet are to be trapped within a frame which will have glued corner joints, and the battens attach to the frame with wedge tenons, so they are not intended to be removable. The battens are not, of course, glued to the panels in anyway as they are meant to allow the panels any seasonal movement that may occur.<br /><br />As to whether the panel is intended to counter any lateral racking of the carcase, well, the strict answer is 'no' in terms of intention. The panels certainly will be ABLE to counter any racking of the carcase, however, unless the glue joints holding the carcase together fail at some point, or some huge load gets applied to the corner of the cabinet (like the house falling down on it) racking is not anticipated to occur.<br /><br />~C<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-15496496552239711472016-10-17T08:10:47.695-04:002016-10-17T08:10:47.695-04:00Hi Sylvain,
thanks for the question. There really...Hi Sylvain,<br /><br />thanks for the question. There really isn't much difference between preventing the rectangular frame from becoming slanted under lateral stress or vertical stress, other than the direction of load. The effect would be the same. Locking the battens to the panels means that as the frame is distorted towards a lozenge shape, the load is transferred into the battens, and then, via their dovetails, into the end grain abutments of the dovetail groves of the panel. By that means, the panel would serve to resist the shear load. <br /><br />Obviously, if the load were high enough, the thin aspect ratio of the panel would mean the panel would deform outward or inward, however the shear resistance of this assembly is perfectly adequate for handling gravity loads on the frame, as would be imposed upon a side-hinged door frame.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-74150366970589648022016-10-17T05:11:21.948-04:002016-10-17T05:11:21.948-04:00Even as I agree with all your construction decisio...Even as I agree with all your construction decisions, I still struggle to get my head around how you can manage to earn a living this way. You build with Faberge aesthetics even as Faberge's clients and their tastes have long passed away.<br />I've used sliding dovetails myself so I know how tricky they can be and then I rely on some compression, tapering one side so the assembly only closes tight near completion. I don't think that's remotely possible with Bubinga. I would never have thought to attempt such a joint across such a wide expanse. If I would, I would have pared down the edges of the sliding tail to make it slip across the joint, leaving only the ends appearing tight. Are these battens removable or are they in to stay permanently?<br />You've not fully covered the details this back panel assembly, yet I wanted to ask whether it is intended to counter any lateral racking of the cabinet frame. Potomackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02047837559244141708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-51330375419567136812016-10-17T04:48:52.748-04:002016-10-17T04:48:52.748-04:00Chris,
You speak about added shear resistance of t...Chris,<br />You speak about added shear resistance of the frame coming from the panel and battens (I would have made a cut and paste of your sentence but it doesn't work).<br />I am not sure what you are pointing to. Is it preventing the rectangular frame becoming a (slanted) losange under lateral stress (or vertical stress like in an old frame and panel door) ?<br />SylvainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-48590370092943553892016-10-15T20:12:29.388-04:002016-10-15T20:12:29.388-04:00Joe,
thanks for commenting as always, and oh yeah...Joe,<br /><br />thanks for commenting as always, and oh yeah, onward and upward to finishing these pieces!!<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-34052453958735772102016-10-15T20:11:43.990-04:002016-10-15T20:11:43.990-04:00Ralph,
I hope the answer I provided to your quest...Ralph,<br /><br />I hope the answer I provided to your question from the previous post was helpful nonetheless.<br /><br />~CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-18726510375576037812016-10-15T19:54:06.190-04:002016-10-15T19:54:06.190-04:00Looks I should have read both posts before asking ...Looks I should have read both posts before asking the finishing question.Ralph Boumenothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606484453109932074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-31546233916388521212016-10-15T15:17:47.017-04:002016-10-15T15:17:47.017-04:00Voted.....Hope you do well. Keep up the work Chris...Voted.....Hope you do well. Keep up the work Chris....I can't wait to see the finish on this figured wood....will be great (looks great with out also) Great work as always!Joe Mnoreply@blogger.com