tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post1902915046212079577..comments2023-11-05T06:16:56.961-05:00Comments on the Carpentry Way: Adventures in Machine Land (V)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-15334215614817517762011-05-14T10:40:31.135-04:002011-05-14T10:40:31.135-04:00Dennis,
thanks for you comment and suggestion. Th...Dennis,<br /><br />thanks for you comment and suggestion. The size under of the shaft was more like a hundredth actually. The good news is that the epoxy worked just fine, machined up cleanly and now the drill press is back up and running. The vibration is all but gone. The bad news is that the spindle turns out to not be very straight, and that results in the stiff operation of the quill up and down (as the top end of the spindle runs through the pulley stack at the top of the head, and doesn't slide smoothly there). There is still a bit more run-out that I would like, but the press is usable for the time-being. <br /><br />Maybe in the next month or two I'll be able to afford to obtain a new spindle and get that part resolved with a bit more machine work down at Marena.<br /><br />I imagine that the spindle got bent by some drill bit catching in a metal object and jamming and torquing at some point in the past.<br /><br />~ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-6753742982704448682011-05-13T23:58:06.275-04:002011-05-13T23:58:06.275-04:00If the epoxy doesn't work, and are four or fiv...If the epoxy doesn't work, and are four or five thousandths under on the shaft size, one crude but effective technique is to take a pointed punch and put rows of divots where the bearing will sit. Punching will displace the metal giving you a bunch of raised donuts that can be turned down to appropriate dimension on the lathe. Kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel of metal working techniques, but effective and quicker then brazing a sleeve and subsequent lathe work. Please don't mention that you heard it here.djyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08985330530360767281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-34676337292534112982011-05-10T22:29:11.191-04:002011-05-10T22:29:11.191-04:00Jeff,
thanks for your comment and appreciation fo...Jeff,<br /><br />thanks for your comment and appreciation for the blog. <br /><br />In regards to shapers, yes, they run lower rpm' than a router, and that is mostly a problem with the smaller diameter bits. I noted this issue in my comment response to Dan above,<br /><br />"I've been considering the shaper option as well, and would want to retrofit a shaper so it can run a router [power] head."<br /><br />Everything sags it seems, even granite, but at least with cast iron option the top can be re-machined flat when required. The phenolic - what can be done with that when it sags? I will make do with the temporary wood shoring for the time being I guess.<br /><br />~ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-22118902776961226452011-05-10T22:19:28.816-04:002011-05-10T22:19:28.816-04:00Chris,
First, a thanks for sharing your work and w...Chris,<br />First, a thanks for sharing your work and writing here, I've really enjoyed reading the blog.<br />My comment is in regards to re-appropriating a shaper to run router bits--I'm no expert on shapers-- but I remember someone saying they don't spin fast enough for router bits. <br />I too am looking for a solution to the sagging router table. I think cast iron is the way to go. I'm not sure my MDF table was ever flat!<br />Keep up the writing!<br />JeffJeff Bartleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-68095756239193997022011-05-10T09:32:02.850-04:002011-05-10T09:32:02.850-04:00Matt,
yes, familiar with that site, and as a memb...Matt,<br /><br />yes, familiar with that site, and as a member there have posted on it before. <br /><br />I am seeing how the epoxy repair idea comes out before any alternate plans, including a replacement spindle, are entertained. Thanks for the suggestion though, much appreciated.<br /><br />~ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-17868562101820617652011-05-10T09:27:50.492-04:002011-05-10T09:27:50.492-04:00Hi Chris -
I recently happened upon a wonderful s...Hi Chris - <br />I recently happened upon a wonderful site via Mr. McCallum, www.OWWN.org. The site is dedicated to the restoration and use of "old wood working machines". Currently in the midst of a drill press restoration and the site has been an invaluable resource. It may not be much of a stretch to find a replacement spindle to address your woes. Hang in there.<br />Best regards,<br />MattMatt Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01004936338345844062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-83697180189220677632011-05-09T02:00:41.352-04:002011-05-09T02:00:41.352-04:00Paul,
my sentiments exactly. Possibly the roughin...Paul,<br /><br />my sentiments exactly. Possibly the roughing-in crew were themselves complaining about the foundation crews sloppy work which preceded theirs?<br /><br />Steve, <br /><br />you do indeed save yourself considerable frustration with sticking to hand tools, though they also can also fall short of expectations sometimes, and suffer from less-than stellar manufacturer support. Ask me about my experiences with Bridge City Tools sometime....<br /><br />Dan,<br /><br />jeez, you too! I thought I was one of the few, the proud, the brave, but Jessem seems to be spreading their message far and wide. Sorry to hear that. I've been considering the shaper option as well, and would want to retrofit a shaper so it can run a router head. We'll see where that quest end up - for now tough, its not an urgent problem to solve. I've been looking at Bench Dog products as well, as they offer a cast iron top and router lift. Reviews seem mostly good from what I've seen, but sometimes the defects don't become apparent for a year or two.<br /><br />~ChrisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328401081765407624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-24287242548134161842011-05-09T01:04:50.078-04:002011-05-09T01:04:50.078-04:00Sorry to hear you had such a frustrating experienc...Sorry to hear you had such a frustrating experience. I had similar problems with my Jessem Rout-R-Lift, and Jessem's service. I eventually sold it and replaced it with a small used 40+ year old shaper that I converted to run router bits. Very nice, very quiet, and very flat! As a fellow Canadian I also felt keenly the poor service of Jessem. <br /><br />All I can say is keep your head down and keep plugging away. Cut your lossses and move on. Brighter days are ahead!Dan McC.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02634565056936864787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-28557165481428653702011-05-08T13:49:39.134-04:002011-05-08T13:49:39.134-04:00Hi Chris,
Indeed, another sad story.
Next time,...Hi Chris,<br /><br />Indeed, another sad story. <br /><br />Next time, when I'm sweating and cursing and lamenting the time its taking me to do what I do by hand, I'll remember your experience(s) with machinery and stop complaining.<br /><br />SteveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6261993076995357307.post-7091231401913767522011-05-08T10:54:01.984-04:002011-05-08T10:54:01.984-04:00(head hung low and defeated) I feel your pain. Qua...(head hung low and defeated) I feel your pain. Quality "customer service" (unsure of that archaic term) is very rare. How do people expect to stay in business? I do not claim to be a carpentry genius but I have never advertised and have gotten all of my work (and repeat business) from word of mouth. Quality work is readily spread by word of mouth and so is bad work. Bad work is harder to for people to forget than good work. If you had taken your drill press to someone who "dabbled" in machining because they bought a lathe at a surplus auction, I might expect that problem. But not from someone with a shingle on their door saying it's all they do. I am currently on a job now where I am constantly having to redo what the rough-in crew did wrong - unlevel, nails missing the studs, completely wrong measurements. <br />People seem to think "doing their job" is going above and beyond what is expected. <br /> . . . grrrrr . . . (exhale) . . .<br /><br />Love your blog!Paul Atzenweilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981296755785226132noreply@blogger.com